• JOB BOARD
  • POST A JOB
  • JOB SEEKERS
  • EMPLOYERS
  • TESTS
  • RESOURCES
  • WAGE ANALYSIS
Menu
  • JOB BOARD
  • POST A JOB
  • JOB SEEKERS
  • EMPLOYERS
  • TESTS
  • RESOURCES
  • WAGE ANALYSIS
CONTACT US
  • LOGIN

  • JOB BOARD
  • POST A JOB
  • JOB SEEKERS
  • EMPLOYERS
  • TESTS
  • RESOURCES
  • WAGE ANALYSIS
Menu
  • JOB BOARD
  • POST A JOB
  • JOB SEEKERS
  • EMPLOYERS
  • TESTS
  • RESOURCES
  • WAGE ANALYSIS
  • Login
  • LOGIN

  • ARTICLES
  • 06/05/2014

School Bus Wiring Problem No Start

Thomas School Bus Wiring Troubleshooting

The pusher bus featured in the video is a 2000 Thomas Pusher (rear engine) bus that would not start from the ignition key. The wiring diagram indicated that the purple with a white stripe numbered #4 runs from the ignition key start terminal directly to a terminal board connection at the front access panel below the driver’s side window.

From there it runs to another connection at the neutral start switch leading through the rear door switch then to the starter solenoid. After tracing the wiring to the back there was no #4 wire at all so we had to back track and get the bus on the hoist to physically locate this wire.

We knew that this circuit was hard wired 40 feet to the rear of the engine and thinking there was a neutral start switch it was directly connected to but in reality there is no actual neutral start switch on this bus. The Allison transmission wiring controls neutral start by way of a VIM vehicle interface module.

What Is A VIM?

This module is an interface between the transmission control unit and the bus chassis. The VIM not only controls neutral start using a relay but also controls high idle and the exhaust brake. The reason for this is the TCU sends a signal when it is in neutral so there is no damage when starting the engine. The same goes for high idle and exhaust brake.

Proceeding With Finding The Fault Wire

So we knew the neutral start circuit was working because we could start the engine from the back. The push button start at the back control panel also goes through the same switches as the ignition switch. That told us that there was an open circuit at the #4 purple wire with the white stripe. It was a 12 guage wire so it would be easy to locate and trace.

Once we found the wire in the harness along the frame we saved a lot of time running a new wire from the front and connected it to the existing wire half way down the bus. This was an easy decision since there was nothing but wiring from the switch to the rear of the bus. The problem was cured and that goes to show how very important having a schematic is to find an electrical problem.

I hope this helps anyone who comes across this same problem. There is no shame to running a new wire when it means saving a LOT of time trying to find the exact spot where the fault is located. Thank you for reading this post and leave a comment below with a question or a similar experience.

More Articles

How it Works – Engine Cooling Systems

  • Videos ·
  • 31/01/2020·
Video: Cooling an engine down is just as important as making power! So how is that achieved? Internal combustion engines are often cooled by circulating a liquid called engine coolant through…
SEE MORE

Troubleshooting a John Deere Tractor and Skid Steer – Welker Farms

  • Videos ·
  • 30/01/2020·
Video The guys from Welker farms have run into more heavy equipment issues! In this video, they diagnose a tractor with a bad turbo, and…
SEE MORE

Case Combine – 8.3 Cummins Swap – Episode 1

  • Videos ·
  • 29/01/2020·
Video Rick from DEBOSS Garage finds a broken down Case 2366 Combine and begins to bring it back to life. Luckily he was able to…
SEE MORE

FLO Components – BOP20 Battery Operated Pump by Macnaught

  • Videos ·
  • 27/01/2020·
Video: Check out this amazing battery operated pump from FLO Components and Mcnaught! The modular design of these pumps allows the powerhead to be easily…
SEE MORE

How it Works – Fuel Injectors

  • Videos ·
  • 23/01/2020·
Video: Fuel Injectors feed your engine the precious fuel it needs to live! But how do they work? This video explains the intricate workings within…
SEE MORE

How Much Abuse Can a RUGGED Smartphone Take?

  • Videos ·
  • 22/01/2020·
Video: For any mechanic working in any environment detrimental to the lifespan of their phones, this product may be for you. This phone surely can…
SEE MORE
  • Terms and Conditions
  • Privacy Policy
  • Cookie Policy

Quick Links

  • Home
  • Job Board
  • Employers
  • Job Seekers
  • Tests
  • About Us
  • Contact Us

Positions We Recruit

  • Heavy Equipment Technicians
  • Heavy Truck Mechanics
  • Parts, Service & Management

Connect With Us

Toll-Free #: 1-888-620-5111

Local #: 416-620-5111

E-Mail: inquire@mechanicshub.com

Headquarters

5409 Eglinton Ave West, Suite 108

Toronto, Ontario

Canada M9C 5K6

© Mechanics Hub Inc. All Rights Reserved

Website Managed By StableWP

Unlimited Package Inquiry

This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged.

Ask Us a Question

Hidden
This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged.

Refer a Friend

This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged.
Hidden
This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged.

Success!

Your application has been submitted to the employer successfully.

Heavy-Duty Mechanic - Trucks & Equipment

Twinsburg, OH, United States

VIEW MORE JOBS
CONTACT us
  • LOGIN

  • Home
  • Post a Job
  • Resources
  • Job Board
  • About Us
  • Job Seekers
  • Employers
  • Tests
  • Wage Analysis
  • Contact Us
Menu
  • Home
  • Post a Job
  • Resources
  • Job Board
  • About Us
  • Job Seekers
  • Employers
  • Tests
  • Wage Analysis
  • Contact Us

©2023 Mechanics Hub Inc.All Rights Reserved